The Minister of Niger Delta Affairs, Elder Godsday Orubebe, in this
interview with journalists spoke about allegations of corruption against
him by stakeholders in the Niger Delta, his relationship with Chief
Edwin Clark and the 2015 governorship election in Delta State. ADELANI
ADEPEGBA was there.
What are the challenges facing your ministry?
I
think the basic challenge is funding. If you look at Nigeria, we are
coming from long experience of inaction and President Goodluck Jonathan
assumed leadership of the country at a time when almost all
infrastructure in the country were begging for attention at the same
time and so the resources we have as a country are not enough to go
round all the things that we want to do. So funding is the main problem,
but due to the dynamic planning, transparency being preached by Mr.
President and because we prioritise our projects, we are doing things we
need to do to move this great country forward.
Some stakeholders
in the Niger Delta feel that the problem is not funding but that you
are just pocketing the money being made available for the development of
the region?
Today, there is a process of doing things in this
country and the President has emphasised the importance of due process.
Before a project is done, it has to first go through the National
Assembly; it has to be appropriated. So, how do you pocket money in such
a situation? Before you do anything, it has to go through due process.
Contracts are tendered, advertised and people who have interest tender
for these contracts. When these contracts are awarded, they are awarded
to people. So how do you pocket money? People who are saying that are
talking out of ignorance. They don’t know what it takes for a contract
to be awarded. As a minister, I don’t have the power to sit down in my
office and call in Mr. A and say I have given you this contract. It has
to be advertised first and then it will go through the due process. When
due process is satisfied, you will be given a certificate of no
objection and it is with that certificate that you would forward your
memo to the Federal Executive Council. At FEC, we have 42 ministers, the
President, the Vice-President and other technical advisers who will
look at the contract before it is awarded. So, if a contract will go
through these processes, how will a minister pocket money?
But a
former member of House of Representatives asked the Economic and
Financial Crimes Commission to prosecute you for corruption…
I am
not corrupt and cannot be. A former member of the House of
Representatives said I awarded N27bn contracts that were not in the
budget and pocketed the money. He said I awarded one contract for N1.2bn
and then increased it to N12bn and paid it. But I believe Nigerians are
clever and now understand the process of awarding contracts. The man
said I was given N27bn but the contracts that were awarded were just
N6m. He also said I was given the money but mobilised the contractors
with only N990m. As at the time of the accusation, we were owing some
contractors. We even approached some of their bankers to let them know
that truly we gave them contracts and we had yet to pay them. We had a
media tour, where many media houses were invited because the mischief
makers also claimed that the contractors and the communities where those
contracts are were not in existence. Besides, journalists based in the
South-South carried out and published their findings. So most of the
negative stories about me in the media are fabricated but I am not
perturbed and will not be distracted.
There have been calls on Mr. President to sack you. What is your take on this?
I
am not bothered at all because Nigerians, including Mr. President, know
that these are people that are just being mischievous. If you observe,
you will see that most of the times, I don’t respond because I don’t
want to be distracted from my work. Some of those who made these
unfounded allegations against me do so because they expect certain
things from me and when those things are not available, they say
‘Orubebe is a bad man.’ But as far as I am concerned, that concept of
blackmailing people for personal gains is old fashioned. My concern is
to follow the due process and be transparent so that we can move the
nation forward. A lot of them have sought favour from me and a lot of
them have benefited from me in one form or the other. If you ask them,
they will tell you and if they want me to publish it, I will publish it.
Some of them are not credible as they want Nigerians to believe. They
are just deceiving the public.
How true is the news that your are interested in the governorship race in Delta State?
My
immediate concern is to work for Mr. President and support him to
enable him to deliver his transformation agenda for the people of this
country. I stand as one of the key supporters of Mr. President, who
will do what he wants us to do to move Nigeria forward. As far as I am
concerned, 2015 is still very far and it is in God’s hands. When we get
to 2015, that is when other things will come up. I have the right to
contest like any other Deltan but that is not in the agenda for now. It
is not my priority.
But Chief Edwin Clark, is one of those who
opposed you and even said you were not fit for the office of governor.
What is your reaction to this?
Well, Chief Clark is entitled to
his opinion. If I want to contest the governorship of Delta State in
2015, Chief Clark also knows that I have the capability to run. I am not
barred by the constitution and I have the support of people and if I
want to run, nobody will stop me. Clark is free to support anybody but
there are thousands of people, who will also support me if I want to run
in 2015 but today as I said earlier, that is not my priority.
What is your relationship with Chief Clark?
My
relationship with Chief Clark is very cordial. I don’t have any problem
with him. He is one of the leaders we have in Ijawland.
Is it true that he recommended that you should be made a minister?
It
is not true that he recommended me but it is true that he supported me
when there was crisis over any appointment. I know the person who
recommended me and at the appropriate time I will mention the person’s
name. I was recommended to the government by a young man.
What is your relationship with the leadership of Peoples Democratic Party in the state?
My
relationship with the leadership of the PDP is very cordial. Peter
Nwaoboshi is my state chairman; he is a great man and we are blessed
that he is doing very well and I am supporting him and his entire
executive so that we can deliver all the elections in 2015 to the party.
PDP is the only party we have in Delta State. I am very happy with the
party chieftains and the way they run the affairs of the party.
But you have been accused of instigating some members to drag the party to court?
How
can I instigate people to take the party to court? The beauty of
democracy is that you have the freedom to say whatever you wants. If
people are aggrieved and they go to court, are they saying they don’t
have the right to seek redress in court? If somebody is walking and
stumbles on a wood, it is Orubebe. I have said that I am working with
the state chairman of the PDP to ensure that we deliver in all future
elections.
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